Nagito Komaeda VS Milo Murphy (Danganronpa VS Milo Murphy's Law) Blog

Luck of the Law.

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"We must believe in luck. For how else can we explain the success of those we don't like?”
-Laurence J. Peter


Nagito Komaeda, the Ultimate Lucky Student.

Milo Murphy, the human natural disaster.


We all love being lucky. Who doesn’t? When good things happen to you it’s almost impossible to feel sad. But sometimes you just have one of those days. You wake up on the wrong side of the bed, your favorite person doesn’t text you back, and the inconveniences don’t stop coming. You feel like you just want to give up. But it’s persevering through these things that separate the weak from the bold. These two kids know how to deal with their often supernatural forms of chance.


Before We Begin...

This should go without saying but, MAJOR spoilers for both series as we get into this. Danganronpa is a game series best played blind, just saying. You hath been warned. Nagito’s main pieces of media used for this blog will be canon Danganronpa source material, as well as other ones that follow the same or similar storylines. V3 will not be considered due to the fact that it isn’t canon, which won’t be stated for spoiler reasons. Milo’s original show and other media canon to his verse like Phineas & Ferb and Hamster & Gretel will be considered, as well as the games and other things connected to it. Also it should be said that the next batch of Phineas and Ferb episodes aren’t out yet, but given that Weird Al has been shown in the recording room with Dan & Swampy it’s likely Milo is gonna be in the next few episodes. But we here at Blogs of the Apocalypse unfortunately can’t see the future, so it can’t be counted in this debate yet. Non-canon crossovers will not be used like Chain Chronicle and Phineas and Ferb: Star Wars. For clarity here’s the list of the media used:


Nagito:

Used:

  • DR: Trigger Happy Havoc

  • DR: Trigger Happy Havoc IF

  • DR: The Anime

  • DR 2: Goodbye Despair

  • DR 2.5: Nagito Komaeda and the World Vanquisher

  • DR 3: The End of Hope’s Peak High School

  • DR Gaiden: Killer Killer

  • DR Another Episode: Ultra Despair Girls

  • Ultra Despair Hagakure


Not Used:

  • DR V3: Killing Harmony

  • Ultimate Talent Development Plan

  • DR S: Ultimate Summer Camp

  • Chain Chronicle & other DR crossovers




Milo:

Used:

  • Milo Murphy’s Law S1-S2

  • Phineas and Ferb S1-S5

  • Hamster and Gretel S1-S2

  • P&F: Across the 2nd Dimension

  • P&F: Candace Against the Universe

  • Take Two with Phineas and Ferb

  • P&F: The Best LIVE Tour Ever

  • P&F video games


Not Used:


  • P&F: Star Wars

  • Theme Song Takeovers

  • Chibiverse

  • Disney Infinity


Oh also kind of unrelated but apparently Death Battle themselves might know about this matchup now??? Fucking crazy. Alright let’s get into it

Background

Nagito Komaeda

“...I’m Nagito Komaeda, nice to meet you.”

Hope’s Peak Academy. A high school in the Japanese nation as being know as one of the best most gifted highschools In the entire world, being almost impossible to get into under normal circumstances, unless you're either one of two things, your either a student who is considered one the best people in the world in a specific talent aka an Ultimate, or if you get the lucky slot for the annual letter of acceptance by Hope’s Peak themselves, getting the title of “Ultimate Lucky Student”. However unlike a certain other student who won this raffle, this one in particular had luck so out there, that the title fits him on the spot without a doubt.


Nagito Komaeda.

Born on April 28th, Nagito had a very eventful life, though not without some unfortunate upbringings from the start, as he was diagnosed with lymphoma and frontotemporal dementia, though there’s one thing, the thing that might’ve been the explanation for how he ended up living longer then he realistically should’ve, his luck. Because in most occasions he’d ever been through had been retroactively manipulated by his overwise supernatural luck, such as when during a time his entire family went a vacation on a plane, some robbers who hijacked the plane got struck and killed by a fist sized meteor… and then that same meteor also killed his parents. Yeah in case you don’t know being the Ultimate Lucky Student doesn’t exactly mean he’s the Ultimate Good Lucky Student, as in within Nagito’s own standards whenever a fleeting string of good luck comes his way seemingly out a nowhere a nearly catastrophically bad thing will happen to him soon right around the corner. If this wasn’t bad enough prior to this, Nagito had a close relationship with his dog, until one day when he was walking along the road with it, a speeding truck came by, his insane luck caused him to avoid the truck, though at the tragic price of his dog’s life.

His life got significantly worse from that point onwards. Continuing with how his luck affected his life, he was once kidnapped by a criminal, and trapped in a garbage bag in the trunk of the criminal's car. It might seem weird how his luck seemed to act negatively off the bat… that’s because in the garbage bag he was kidnapped and had a winning lottery ticket, worth three million yen… an absolute positive outcome event like this must’ve been what ultimately caused him to believe in the thing that’d shape his personality. Hope. In the same way of Nagito’s hope, he started to believe that whenever a terrible opening of despair came across, a fortunate stream of hope would come sooner or later. This would come across most effectively when he was accepted into the 77th Class of Hope’s Peak Academy. Nagito came across as a polite, friendly and easygoing, yet somewhat insecure boy, who had a self-deprecating attitude often calling himself a nobody, just thinking he blends into the background. The main thing that kept him invested was the person who everyone in the class agreed to represent as the hope of the class, Chiaki Nanami, The Ultimate Gamer. As Nagito followed in the footsteps of the main stream of hope, everything was going well, until an exam was coming up, and pretty much every student was stressed out of their minds, and Nagito had a plan to try and cancel the exams… By bombing the absolute shit out of the gymnasium! And after unintentionally getting at least three students expelled, Nagito would soon be suspended from Hope’s Peak for a whole year.


During his little antics away from the academy he’d pick up an object that’d be part of his plan for when he meets a very special person, and that occasion came ary when him and Chiaki discovered some kind of secret underground base of the Ultimate Despair herself, Junko Enoshima, as she was purposely manipulating another student of Class 77, Ryota Mitari, The Ultimate Animator into creating animations that brainwash the population by showing a video of an entire class of Hope’s Peak Academy slaughtering each other (Don’t Watch Danganronpa, that’s probably a good note both for mental sake but also unironically true critically lol), Nagito with the same coy expression as usual pulls out a gun that he got while away from Hope’s Peak with the intent to shoot her, only for that not to work due to the presence of another pawn in her game, Izuru Kamakura showing up, who’s collection of pretty much every current talent including Nagito’s ultimate luck meant the gun wasn’t able to work on him so he just took the gun and shot Nagito, the end… or it would be if not for his luck also coming to save him by making the bullet only pierce through his student handbook, however leaving him unconscious. 


Cut after a bunch of student shenanigans however, something tragic happened to this class, where the previously had completely brainwashed the teacher of this class, Chisa Yukizome, to accompany in a plan that would end up changing to future of the entire world, specifically by trapping the Classes Beloved Chiaki in a fully dragged out death trap and forcing the students to watch it in all its glory, by the time the final blow is delivered after manipulation, and putting the victim into a false sense of safety, this causes everyone to be put into utterly mind numbing despair, to the point where Junko pretty much brainwashed them into forming into a corrupted nation for her benefits, The Remnants of Despair. All the students being recruited to this special nation had only one goal, to cause as much despair to all of humanity as we know it in different, almost excruciating ways, Nagito included. Though as ironic as it seems, he was the only one who seemed to have a sense of humanity in him, as although he willingly gave his role to work for Junko’s empire under the faction known as the Warrior’s of Hope, for some reason he also cut off his own arm and used the arm off Junko’s dead corpse. Despite submitting to despair he still wants people to believe there’s still hope in the world, his main motivation was wanting to create a successor to Junko Enoshima, specifically because he was jealous of Makoto Naegi for being the one to defeat her without him even being there to witness because he hates her so much, though the leader of the Warrior’s of Hope, Monaca Towa, who is pretty much the ultimate Junko Stan was the perfect model to shape into the next Ultimate Despair, although Nagito’s obsessive beliefs of Hope and Despair actually ending up being a key factor in the saviour of humanity, as Monaca sooner after all of this got tired of the whole Hope and Despair Battle and decided to isolate herself, in outer space, because yes.


It was after this point that Nagito and the other Remnants of Despair were kidnapped and put into a simulation known as the Neo World Program by the Future Foundation, to be transferred into a seemingly safe world to live in to allow the Future Foundation to rehabilitate each of them of their brainwashing, having their memories erased of whatever events happened in the real world. It was going all good with their guardian angel rabbit, Usami until once again something bad has to happen, and that the AI of the now dead Junko Enoshima was able to get into the Neo World Program somehow, and get everyone’s favourite sadistic little bear, Monokuma to assist the Class into starting yet another killing game.

While Nagito came off the same as he did in the beginning at first, being the positive, self deprecating guy he is, it wouldn’t be too long until all the students learned about his true nature, being that of a significantly more sinister human being, who takes the whole Hope belief to a completely toxic extent, so much so as he’d be willing to make himself a stepping stone for everyone’s hope to be strong any time soon if he were to be killed.

Though constantly flipping between being sane and not sane, Nagito would later come across a book that would seemingly give him the knowledge that he and everyone else besides the previously hinted at traitor working for the Future Foundation were Remnants of Despair out of 7 potential students. With this he plotted an impossible murder, one that even included his luck by threatening to bomb the entire island, setting up a trap where he poisoned a fire grenade for an occasion where he would eventually set a warehouse on fire and thanks to his Ultimate Luck it was the Traitor who ended up throwing the poisoned fire grenade, Ultimately leading to his demise. Though… not because the traitor was a bad person to him, quite the opposite in fact, his plan was to ultimately make the traitor the murderer so that they could have the chance to survive letting everyone else who were Remnants of Despair to be executed…


Though this wasn’t the end of Nagito’s story even after all that’s been said. Turns out after the ending revealed that everyone who dies in the Neo World Program aren’t exactly dead, just put into a coma, the Future Foundation after the AI Junko is completely eradicated, each of the students who died during the killing game had to be put into another simulation where they could finally manage to rehabilitate them for good, Nagito being the last one out, put into a world where he is just a normal boy, with no talent, but a lot of bad luck following his way, it was here that Nagito’s beliefs changed, he didn’t even know what the word hope was, and he seemed to claim a secret hatred for talent as a whole. Until a seemingly different version of the previous Izuru Kamakura, or Hajime Hinata, known as the World Destroyer stirred up some destruction even killing four of Nagito’s closest classmates. As Nagito would eventually have a final duel with this mysterious character Nagito’s bad luck seemed to take more effect until he seemingly submitted to some kind of circumstance and unintentionally shot himself with a gun. It was here that Nagito finally started to gain his memories back before waking up, seemingly his arc of learning to accept himself. He woke up with open arms for the people he saw as his friends in his fantasy, he even had his Junko arm replaced with a robotic one. Willing to side with the previous Remnants, now mentally cured to put a stop to all the people brainwashed by the previously known Ryota Mitari, who was also seemingly a member of the Future Foundation.


It would soon come to a close when everyone of the class who had survived all this way had the opportunity to set sail to live on Jabberwock Island where they would be free of their uttermost traumatic past.


Though at the end of the day, Nagito Komaeda will always have the same fascination with hope as he always has, to the point where instead of the Ultimate Lucky Student, he would happily want to be graced with the title of The Ultimate Hope.


Milo Murphy

“I try to pack for any eventuality!”

Back in the year of 1941, Edward Aloysius Murphy, Jr. graduated from the US Military Academy and was quickly enlisted into the army. Achieving major in his rank, he later went on to study aerospace engineering, where his motto for hard work and mischance was “If a part can be installed in more than one position, it will be incorrectly installed in the field." The meaning was passed down from one generation to the next, until it became a law stronger than gravity and nature itself, only affecting the male members of the Murphy name. Simplified only as, “What can go wrong, will go wrong.”


Enter Milo Danger Murphy, our focus for today. (Danger is pronounced don-jé, it’s French.) Milo is of course impaired by Murphy’s Law, and has been his whole life. But in his youth he soon got used to random animals attacking him, objects seemingly burning when he got near them, and natural disasters having an affinity for his general location. Even though he struggled to fit in at first, he found two close friends to confide in with Melissa Chase and Zack Underwood. A very brawny girl with a love for Milo’s resilience, and an anxiety-ridden new kid who’s in a… lumberjack boyband? They must be perfect for each other. Milo’s influence even grew outside his circle of friends. Dakota and Cavendish are two time-traveling buddies, that are definitely a little bit more than friends, and protect pistachios across time itself. Dakota and Cavendish came to warn  Milo about a pistachio tree beginning to bloom in his middle school courtyard, and would one day become a mutated biological monstrosity that took over the entire Earth. Yes, this is real. With quite a leap in his expertise, Milo, with the help of his new friends (and the best dog in the world) were able to take down the Pistachion monsters for good... Until they came back about a month later and then took over the world again. Yeah those Pistachions were pretty persistent to say the least. Anyways, they were taken down again with the help of Phineas and Ferb and the cast from their show.


As Milo watched the world slowly come back to normal through the grit of his teeth, he resumed a normal life (well, normal for him) and persisted through Murphy’s Law, except that didn’t last long either. Yeah, this kid really can’t catch a break. Aliens known as Octalians loomed over Earth, tracking a certain negative frequency that Milo and the other Murphys were putting out. A law like no other, or so Milo thought. The Octalians came bargaining to him with an issue, their leader’s daughter, Orgaluth, was going through a similar handicap. What could go wrong would go wrong for her, and they needed Milo’s experience with dealing in misfortune to help her out. When they arrived back onto Octalia, Orgaluth’s calamity was getting out of control, being a threat to the entire planet. Who knows how big it could become without stopping it? Milo, along with Melissa and Zack figured that all she really needed was the support of her friends and family to help control her law. And it worked! Milo had gone from an ordinary middle school kid to a planet-saving genius that had crossed the galaxy. And time! Milo became so much more than himself, and he couldn’t have done it without his pals. He’s more than just a law. He’s a goddamn Murphy.


Experience & Skill


Nagito Komaeda

a drawing of a young man with white hair and a black jacket

Nagito is a character defined by his uncertainty, and has a deeply layered psyche that most students around him can’t even really understand. In Chapter 5 of Goodbye Despair, Nagito not only finds out that they’re in a virtual simulation, but also sets up an extremely elaborate murder-suicide to expose the traitor within the other group of students that are left. It required a total of at least 5 layers of misdirection. Faking being tied up, poisoning a fire extinguisher, rigging a weird spear trap with oil drums involved, self inflicting fatal injuries to stump the class, and locking the true answer behind overall internal confusion. And Nagito knew this would all go according to plan because of his luck. Nagito treated the trial as a chessboard and the other students as his pawns. Beyond this, though, it’s likely Nagito even found out the answer to previous class trials he was a part of, since he slightly nudges the class closer to the answer. And in terms of less manipulation-like intelligence, Nagito’s also shown to know how Komaru’s Hacking gun worked with extensive analysis, and modified it to be less powerful.


Milo Murphy

a boy with a backpack and a girl with a lunch box

Milo has quite the experience dealing with his misfortune. Despite his young age, he’s basically lived through just about anything that can happen to him, and stays packed for any eventuality. Beyond that he’s a smart kid who’s very booksmart, knowing a lot about usually very specific things, with some genuinely really great problem-solving abilities, like that time he outsmarted the Pistachions with his friends. He’s become so adept and quick at dealing with Murphy’s Law that some of his friends genuinely think he can analyze situations like a robot, seeing which outcomes will and won’t work. He doesn’t have some kind of clairvoyance or precognition, though. The series has slightly joked about that before, but he's just genuinely prepared for 99% of all outcomes, because anything that can go wrong eventually will.


Equipment


Nagito Komaeda


Robotic Arm

After wanting to feel closer to Junko Enoshima, Nagito replaced his hand with Junko’s arm from her decaying corpse. Later, the Future Foundation, having captured him, removes the Junko hand and replaces it with a more standard prosthetic.


Student Handbook

A simple student handbook that all Hope’s Peak Academy students own. It’s normally used for taking notes… Or in Nagito’s case, taking a bullet for him! Yeah, these things are surprisingly durable.


Gun

Nagito went overseas to the United States himself to get an actual pistol, and somehow, Hope’s Peak Academy allowed this. Because of his luck, he sometimes doesn’t even have to aim it perfectly to shoot someone.


Bombs

By creating chaos and near-death situations with bombs, Nagito believes he can force the students to confront their true selves and bring about a more profound hope. Whatever that means. Usually requires heavy preparation to set up.


Poison

Monokuma’s special poison, which becomes heavier than air when it vaporizes and envelops the whole room. The poison is strong enough to incapacitate a human that smells it, but it’s unknown if it actually kills them.


Pepper

Something he seemingly just carries for specific situations, specifically trying to make Toko sneeze so she would change into her Genocide Sho/Jack/Jill personality state. (whatever you call it lol)


Gas Mask & Gloves

Nagito uses this to prepare the poison he used to, technically, kill himself.


Knife

Nagito uses this to stab into his own skin. Disgusting…


Dr. Hopper

Thirsty? Well, you’re in luck! After an accident involving a vending machine and a convenient speeding truck. Nagito got his hands on a whole lot of (Totally uninspired) Dr. Hopper! 


Milo Murphy


Backpack

Milo’s prized backpack, given to him by his former babysitter Veronica, that he can’t function without. It always has what he needs within it, and has seemingly endless storage. He also has stated multiple times he carries extras of everything.


Accordion

a cartoon character playing an accordion and a guitar

Milo is an accomplished accordion player. Just like his voice actor!


Body Armor

“Sticks and stones can damage your vital organs, so always wear body armor!” This stuff is heavy enough to weigh a normal person down, but Milo toughens through pretty easily.


Fire Extinguisher 

A lot of fires happen because of Murphy’s Law. This is definitely one of his most used pieces of equipment.


Inflatable Raft

For incoming overhead projectiles. He also has a really big one the size of a stage, just in case.


Fishing Rod

A regular fishing rod. He also keeps a completely different one in his bag also, just in case.


Safety Goggles and Plak Jacket

For when chemistry goes extra wrong.


Platypus Pajamas

A Murphy?

MILO THE MURPHY!?


Net

A net that Milo swiftly loses. Don’t ask why he’s on an ostrich here.


Knockout Gas

Sleeping gas that took out an adult elephant and tiger.


Banana Cologne

Good at attracting monkeys, or anyone that likes bananas, I suppose.


Bowl Sealant

Milo would definitely have a great time attending a different kind of party with a certain liquidy substance as the main attraction…

(Just take that line Dakota says literally a couple scenes later completely out of context and that’s this description lol)


Liquid Nitrogen

Liquid nitrogen usually helps rapidly freeze objects and preserve items, but Milo just uses it to clear up a wart.


Night Vision Goggles

Using these, Milo can see in the dark!


Screwdriver

No good Murphy would be complete without his random screwdriver to fix technology around him that spontaneously stops working. It looks to be a flathead.


Singing Saw

“Saw, saw, saw, saw away at my heart!”


Electric Candelabra

For when his flashlight runs out of batteries.


Crocquet Mallet and Shock Absorber

Shock absorbers typically control the movement of a vehicle’s springs, and croquet mallets hit rich people balls.


Dust-Filtering Masks

Masks that protect the user from dust particles. Don’t ask why they’re in the shape of animals.


Generator

For some reason Milo keeps a generator in his bag, probably for all the electric-based equipment he uses.


Umbrella

A surprisingly versatile piece of equipment in Milo’s bag, he usually uses it to shield from oncoming projectiles or to catch other things.


T-Shirt Launcher

Shoots T-Shirts though they seem to also have knockout gas in them from the Llama Incident as Milo Says, though this could come across as a useful James Bond level unexpected weapon.


Short Rope

Used on circumstances for tying an unconscious polar bear to a small iceberg, and attaching onto llamas to allow them to drag Milo along to snow on a 15 llama open sledge.


Bag of Pistachios

Food is a key measurement to survival, and since Pistachios seem to be the only form of consumption that is pretty much everyone around Danville, Milo having some for himself, or to attract animals like llamas is a good sign for both him and real life in a sort of way. (Unless they’re evil)


Seatbelts

So that he can keep steady on various moving objects. Like llamas!


Bike Tire & Wrench

After noticing his bike was broken, he fixed it with a spare tire. Also I just wanna note he was purposefully riding his bike with one wheel even though he could’ve easily fixed it this whole time out of pure convenience. What a guy


Hedge Trimmers

Hedge trimmers. Three of them. Useful for fighting off Pistachion monsters.


Salt Block & Blowtorch

Milo heats this up, causing a giant explosion to knock back Pistachions. Man this guy is resourceful


Catapult

A mini-catapult strong enough to launch bowling balls. Speaking of...


Bowling Balls

Five bowling balls Milo was carrying, launched by the catapult. The sink in this image comes from the girl’s bathroom.


Piano Wench & Cable Snares

Holds up two Pistachions later on, on its own!


Triple-Extra-Large Straight Jacket

Strong enough to hold back one of those nasty Pistachions.


Wind Chimes & Self-Inflatable Air Mattress

Not very useful in combat, honestly. But Milo can still get creative with it.


Woodpecker Whistle

Calls woodpeckers from miles away. Did you know they like eating pistachio plants?


Periscope

To see things from far away. It fits in Milo’s bag by being able to telescope down.


Lint Roller

A practical way to remove natural pests from your clothes indeed.


Flashlight

Can be used for both lighting up dark areas and also blinding whoever's eyes is shined by the light.


The music playing in this clip is montage music and that’s really funny lol


Toilet Paper, Candy Bar and Can of Beans

Items strangely used commonly during camping and relatively effective projectiles at that.


Wrench

I don’t mean to throw a wrench into this section but I don’t know if you should use a wrench like that… but if it works it’s not stupid.


Weather Almanac

Let’s just assume if Milo pulls this out a the desired weather is likely to occur conveniently at that point which in the case above is essentially a tsunami.


Balls

Of the sporting variety of course. Soccer balls, baseballs and basketballs.


Face Protection

Milo includes a lot of body protection to make sure his bones don’t crack. And multiple just to be sure.


Parachute

Elliot branded, specifically for slowing descent. He also has several different parachutes in different shapes. Unfortunately most of them will start to break if they enter their expiration date.


Airhorn

Great for distractions against huge pistachio monsters.


Cattle Prod

These tools are a device meant to tase and herd animals, giving a shock of typically 8,000 volts. Milo later uses this to jumpstart a car.


Trowel / Towel

“Throw me my towel! No, not my trowel!”


 Collapsable Javelin Pole

To leap large distances Milo is actually pretty adept at using this javelin pole.


Dog Bowl & Water

So that everyone can stay hydrated!


Rhino Mask

A regular rhino mask. Well, I guess it was Halloween so that makes sense.


Aerial Ribbon

Great for distractions, and is also surprisingly longer than it looks.


Lemon Helmet


When life crushes your lemons, stitch the rines together to make a helmet! Lemony fresh.


Foldable Ramp

I can assume this usually only works for wheels, and other spherical and rollable objects.


Lemons & Radioactive Watermelon

The watermelon in specific helped power the Milo exosuit.


Bungee Cords, Carjack, & Hammock

Used all three of these to escape out of a whale’s mouth. Try and figure out how that works.


Jack

This hydraulic jack can hold up an iron door that was consistently shutting on and off again.


Springy Thing

Boing!


Gum

Gum surprisingly strong enough to hold back an outer space puncture on a spacecraft.


Tennis Balls

So nobody gets hurt! Or if you just wanna play some tennis.


Jumper Cables

These fixed a power conduit on an alien ship, turning the ship back on entirely.


Grappling Hook

Another example of a common Milo Murphy item, Milo uses grappling hooks to get out of various uncomfortable situations.


Rope & Pickaxe

There’s more than one way to climb a staircase! This is for when the grappling hook fails.


Handcuffs

From his magic kit, Milo can cuff someone to himself and get out of the cuffs relatively easily afterwards.


Electromagnet

This item can pull metal objects close to Milo, or wrap them around him if it isn’t used correctly (like Elliot does in the GIF)


Misc. Items

Milo has many, many items that can hardly be applied into a fight, and this list is getting quite long already. Here are some miscellaneous things he uses.

  • Broken GPS

  • Paper map of Danville

  • Sandwich

  • Helmet with a light

  • Goggles

  • Kaleidoscope

  • Binoculars

  • Inflatable Santa

  • Tape measure

  • Stuffed alien toy

  • Cake mixer

  • Tinfoil

  • Scissors

  • Discus

  • Electrolyte snacks

  • Sunblock (SPF 1,000,000)

  • Dissolvable sleeping bags

  • Metal detector

  • Stuffed elephant

  • Rubber cement glue

  • Fish bowl pebbles

  • Nail scissor

  • Badminton racket

  • Tinfoil ball

  • Framed picture of Diogee

  • Pistachios

  • Peanut butter

  • Anchor


Powers & Abilities


Nagito Komaeda


Ultimate Luck

Nagito happens to have an inherent sense of luck that follows him around, wherever he goes. How it works is, one horribly bad thing will happen to him but that gets balanced out by one good thing that happens usually in succession. For example, he was on an airplane with his parents one time where it got hijacked. But right as he was about to get shot, a meteorite struck the plane and killed the hijacker but also killed his parents, giving him their inheritance. This luck persists throughout his life and Nagito has no way of controlling it on his own.


Some other feats of his luck include:


  • Winning a game of Russian Roulette with 5 Bullets in the gun

  • Got randomly picked for cleaning duty out of 15 other students.

  • After being released when he had been kidnapped by a serial killer, Nagito had discovered a winning lottery ticket for three hundred million dollars in the garbage bag the murderer kidnapped him in.

  • By chance, successfully got Chiaki to throw the fire grenade that had poison inside it, which killed Nagito (Yes, this was part of Nagito’s plan)

  • His student handbook softened the impact of a bullet that would’ve killed him


Pain Tolerance

Nagito has shown that he doesn’t really feel pain that easily, even being able to slice his own legs open without much of a problem. This could be due to just how much pain Nagito has endured in his life in general.


Milo Murphy


Murphy’s Law

a cartoon character is walking down a street with a disney xd logo in the background

Bad things just tend to happen around Milo. In simple terms, what can go wrong usually does. This includes things like spontaneous combustion of random objects, or even as major as volcanoes erupting at his mere presence. Milo has no way of controlling Murphy’s Law. Specifically:


  • Emits Negative Probability Ions (basically means the level of Murphy’s Law is determined and or transmitted from his genes, relating to how it was passed on to him through his ancestors)

    • These Negative Probability Ions alter the probability of events around a Murphy in such a way that violates laws of physics 

  • Tends to soften when Milo is sick

  • Can cause machines to malfunction or overload 

  • Seemingly causes random explosions

  • Can happen to others around Milo, not just to him

  • Can act to cause bad luck offensively on those trying to sneak up on Milo (Now I Am a Murphy)

  • Stated to be a more fundamental law than gravity, being a total universal constant

    • This is supported by the fact that in The Race Dakota and Cavendish got stuck in a time where a bunch of other time travellers got stuck because Murphy’s Law was affecting them from the past. This kind of just… happens. So, technically, Murphy’s Law has a very weird temporal range that can occasionally affect people in the future, too.


Spatial Manipulation


While his bag has run out of items before, and we’ve even seen it empty, this is really the only way that Milo can store all the items he has. Perhaps that bag is just a little bigger on the inside than it is on the outside. This likely isn’t a form of hammerspace or something, as again, Milo has run out of items multiple times and hammerspace is usually unlimited.


Broadway Force

a group of cartoon characters dancing on a street

While Milo doesn’t use it too often, he can break out into song forcing people around him to join in. Pretty much all the characters in the Phineas & Ferb verses have this ability also, as Danville is known for its musical numbers, and Dr. Doofenshmirtz is a good example of this. Dr. D is capable of summoning backup dancers, changing his clothes instantly, and manifesting random objects that all fit the song accordingly.


Fourth Wall Awareness

On multiple occasions, Milo has shown to be aware that he’s a TV show, mostly just talking to the audience. This is another ability that most characters in Milo’s universe seem to have, just naturally.


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Feats


Nagito Komaeda


Overall

  • Lived with Ultimate Luck for his whole life

  • Survived a plane hijacking! although his parents died during it

  • Created an impossible to solve murder that truly stumped Class 77-B

  • Was a servant to the Warriors of Hope

  • Annoyed Monaca so much that she’d rather send herself to space 

  • Modified Komaru’s hacking gun

  • Almost shot Junko and by extension, almost prevented the entirety of Danganronpa from happening 


Strength

  • Threw a ball so hard it unscrewed all the bolts in a building all in one go (As shown above)

    • While this feat did happen more due to his luck, it’s still worth noting


Durability

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Speed

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  • None on his own



Milo Murphy


Overall

  • Lived with Murphy’s Law his whole life without dying

  • Outsmarted the Pistachion race with the help of his friends, saving all of humanity

  • Teamed up with Phineas and Ferb to outsmart the Pistachion race saving all of humanity… again

  • Helped save an entire planet from calamity, reuniting a mother with her daughter

  • Taught everyone that optimism can coexist with chaos

  • Always manages to keep a positive attitude no matter how bad his life gets


Strength

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Durability

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Speed

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Scaling


Nagito Komaeda


Hope’s Peak Class 77-B

Given that this was Nagito’s original class he was apart of, it’s only natural he’d scale to the rest of them. Most of them aren’t anything too special, although he would downscale from particularly stronger characters like Nekomaru.


Hope’s Peak Class 78

It’s not too far off to consider Nagito comparable to the previous class before him, given they’re all mostly normal students as well, with notably stronger students including the likes of Sakura and Mukuro.


Other Characters

These are other people that are likely comparable to Nagito, being consistent with the characters above.


Komaru Naegi

 

Since Nagito’s physically comparable to Komaru it’s not a stretch to say he can do the things she can, too.


Monokuma Units

While Nagito scaling to Monokuma directly is questionable, it should be possible thanks to Makoto’s sister. Komaru, being relative to Nagito (via Komaru being physically average in universe), has tanked and destroyed several different models of Monokuma before, regardless, See Before the Verdicts


Milo Murphy


Milo’s Friends

Milo would obviously scale to and above his own friends and family due to being the same age or just being in similar situations a lot.


Cavendish and Dakota

Cavendish and Dakota are a time-travelling couple that Milo is friends with, and they’ve shown to be on-par with one another like in fights with various Pistachions, so it’s natural to scale them.


Pistachions

Given that Milo has outsmarted them time and time again, and also being shown to be on par with characters that can harm them, it makes sense scaling Milo to Pistachions.


Octalians

Octalians are the Season 2 antagonists of MML, and since Milo’s dog can blitz them and carelessly throw them around like ragdolls, that’s a pretty good indicator they’re scalable. Also Orgaluth has a similar effect to Murphy’s Law making it potentially comparable as well.


Phineas and Ferb Characters

Given that he’s crossed over with them and they’ve been shown to keep up with each other, Milo scales to the Phineas and Ferb cast. Dr. Doof even becomes a side character in Season 2 furthering this comparison. Milo might even upscale from characters younger than him since, y’know, he’s older and more tough. Regardless, their scaling can still be called into question. (See Before the Verdicts)


Hamster and Gretel Characters

While Milo wouldn’t directly scale to Hamster and Gretel due to the fact that 1. They haven’t even met before and therefore can’t be viewed as comparable or not and 2. They’re superhuman beings that would in no way have the same applicability as normal humans like most Phineas and Ferb characters. But the human characters and below in Hamster and Gretel are fine.


Other People

These are just other non-superhuman characters Milo should scale to.


Weaknesses


Nagito Komaeda

Nagito is a pretty smart guy, as we’ve covered thus far, but his greatest feats of intelligence usually come from analyzing a situation for days on end until he gets a full grasp on it. Another thing is his own luck. While it’s his biggest advantage when it’s good, it’s his worst disadvantage when it’s bad. He’s capitalized on it before, like during his own death, but that was very situational and there’s no way for him to know what’s going to happen to him next. It’s entirely possible that while trying to plan something out, his bad luck could backfire immensely, giving him a loss. His physical capabilities though are another thing. Nagito has pretty low stamina due to his illness, and lacks any notable movement feats from himself or via scaling to others. Mentally speaking he’s also got some issues, being obsessed with hope and despair, often putting himself into mental outbreaks because of this. This obsession could make him less focused on self-preservation, leaving him open to be vulnerable and manipulated. 


Milo Murphy

Milo, despite all his preparedness, still has trouble with Murphy’s Law from time to time. While he manages to keep a cool head pretty often, Milo’s all about defense and survival which fairs pretty well for himself, but not for others. Even though he can improvise around it, it creates a constant disadvantage. Random chaos is always working against him, and while he’s used to it, it really is his biggest weakness. Also, due to his lack of experience with offensive measures, someone who could match him in stats with a higher intelligence and quite literally a basic form of combat potential could make Milo run for the hills. If he can even get there before they randomly explode due to Murphy’s Law. Physical fights aren’t his strong suit, quite literally we never even see him throw a punch throughout his entire show. Dealing with Murphy’s Law in general is another thing, too. His backpack often runs out of usable materials before long, rendering his versatility in a battle to be on a time limit.


Before the Verdict


How would their luck interact?


To understand how both of their forces would react to one another, we need to break down how both work to begin with. There could be a few different interpretations for how this works, but this one is probably the simplest.


How Nagito’s Luck Works


Typically, we see Nagito be extremely lucky a lot of the time, but just around the corner something bad always happens to him again. Take it as his luck balancing itself out. One bad thing happens, then a good thing, then the cycle repeats. Not too hard to understand


How Murphy’s Law Works


While Nagito’s supernatural luck has good in it, Murphy’s Law is all bad. We see in The Phineas and Ferb Effect that Phineas and Ferb both have positive probability ions emanating from them, causing everything around them to work out to their liking. (This is the canon reason that they never get busted.) But Milo has negative probability ions which do the exact opposite, they do negative things. What classifies as positive and negative in this universe? Who knows. Regardless, Milo’s presence skews energy fields, affecting probability. Negative and positive probability ions cannot occupy the same space, as stated by Baljeet, so when Phineas and Ferb stand close to Milo, these negative probability ions move elsewhere. To conclude, Murphy’s Law is in direct opposition to anything good happening.


How Their Luck Would Interact


Since we now know Phineas and Ferb have positive probability ions forcing everything around them to go right, and Milo has the opposite, can’t we just conclude that Nagito would have both probability ions emanating from him? Well, not quite. We know Murphy’s Law has a scientific way it works, but Nagito’s Ultimate Luck is more formulaic. One bad thing, one good thing, then it repeats. We’ve never seen his luck analyzed in a scientific way before, so we can’t assume his luck is strictly based on probability. Nagito’s gotten good at farming his bad luck, then capitalizing on whatever good thing is about to happen, but it’s unlikely he even knows what force around him is controlling it. Or even how. It just… “happens”. And Murphy’s Law directly skews good things from “happening.” Since Murphy’s Law can even affect those around Milo, not just him, this is where it would affect Nagito too. It even worked in direct proximity to Phineas and Ferb in spite of their positive probability ions, they needed a machine to be able to direct Murphy’s Law away. When near Milo, Nagito likely wouldn’t experience good things happening to him as much anymore. What can go right doesn’t, and if Nagito and Milo are in the same area with one another it would likely cause an endless cause-and-effect loop of bad things until they move away from each other or one dies. You could argue that Nagito would still experience his good luck in small amounts given how good luck comes after his bad luck (And Murphy’s Law would definitely supply bad luck), but either way, much more calamity would happen most of the time they’re together than compared to good outcomes. Milo’s luck is a force like gravity, while Nagito’s is supernatural and isn’t comparable to anything humans can experience normally.


Aren’t Danganronpa characters just normal humans?


Now under most circumstances, a lot of people would probably not bring this up, probably because of series leniency but that’s not important right now lol but for the purpose of adding something new, and the fact it could come up when talking about Nagito in particular we might as well bring it up.


Now the main premise in Danganronpa is having these regular high schooler trapped within the confines of a location, (usually a school) with no way to break out, and are forced to kill each, most of the ways in which they, whether they’re murdered or executed are usually things that could kill a regular human pretty standardly or in general are just very basic stuff, like being hit on the head hard, stabbed, falling from high heights, even with the executions with the first guy literally dying to a bunch of baseballs being pelted at him at 100 miles per hour, which would cause extreme pain, but under most scientific or mathematical circumstances would more than likely not kill you, stuff like this happens all the time in Danganronpa.


However there are also instances throughout the series that show a much more absurd level of power. It's generally less frequent but it’s still there, that feat of Nekomaru taking a shit hard enough to destroy a forest is literally how we’re introduced to him in Danganronpa 3 lmao. That and the fact the series is generally a less realistic take on reality and logic, even without taking into account feats and stuff like that. But overall generally speaking with how in most case scenarios we take the characters from series at their best without the use of anti feats, which these could easily be considered as it’s fair to say we won’t be including low showings for the Danganronpa cast since there are I would say enough impressive feats in the series to back up for most of the high end scaling.


Doesn’t Danganronpa 2 take place in a virtual world?


Since this is the game Nagito originates from including most of the stuff including in this blog, and the fact he makes it pretty long into the game overall we’ll have to address this point, as it’s shown through sources of here, and in other sources like the DR3 anime, that the place Class 77-B is put in, “Jabberwock Island” is actually virtual reality simulated place, created by this organisation known as the Future Foundation, the Neo World Program, specifically as a method to rehabilitate all the students who were brainwashed into being Remnant of Despair to bring them back to normal, this implies that the place there in as actually a virtual and or mental simulation they are in while they’re unconscious implying none of the feats or equipment they’re shown having applies to their real worlds selves right?


Not exactly… Well, it’s kinda hard to conclude ultimately. For one it is shown that the characters’ physical bodies from their original bodies are carried over as their avatars. Though, this is kinda the only main thing to prove their avatars are the same as in real life. It is also shown that the characters who die in the simulation don’t actually die in the real world, they are just put into a comatose state and if the program is shut down the avatars are deleted, and the original characters can potentially wake up.


Overall it’s just so vague and complex in context of the actual situation, that it’s almost impossible to gather whether they’re bodies are the same as they are in the real world, though, considering stuff like how Chiaki’s avatar is shown to actually be an AI since, well… she kinda kicked the bucket in the real world, I think it could be fair to assume the feats/equipment possessed by Nagito in the Neo World Program could potentially apply to the real Nagito. (Though it’s kinda only the equipment that’d really matter here lol)


Monokuma Scaling


It can be quite questionable to scale Nagito, a skinny dementia-ridden high schooler, to fleets of destructive mechanical bears that can take over the world, but it’s well within reason to assume he at least downscales from them.


Scaling Nagito to Komaru usually makes sense, as they’re similar in physicality to one another and should be capable of around the same things. Nagito even shows knowledge on how Komaru’s hacking gun works at the very beginning of UDG, so in attack speed he might even upscale her. But the real meat and bones is physically, Komaru is completely average, she states this multiple times and makes clear that she’s nothing special in universe (There are straight up whole conversations about how average she is), making her a good baseline for scaling. Regardless, if we’re scaling Nagito to Komaru we sort of have to scale him to at least the Monokumas she fights also. While Nagito never really uses the gun for himself, so we can’t give him her attack potency, Nagito would absolutely be able to take hits from the Monokumas and survive. Nagito is at the end of the day, an ill man. So he’s likely not capable of what your typical Big Bang Monokuma can dish out, but downscaling from how their attacks would hit others makes sense.


Phineas and Ferb / Hamster and Gretel Scaling


Given Milo’s typically lower-scale feats compared to his friends from his sister show, there’s a consensus seen around Milo in VS where they don’t really scale Milo to other characters except for ones in his show. Milo’s never shown to do the scope of things that Phineas and Ferb can do, so not scaling Milo to these feats because of them being outliers makes sense, but this line of reasoning has issues.


There’s no reason that Milo shouldn’t scale to these feats. Sure, they can be seen as outliers, but here’s the thing. Phineas and Ferb are regular ass kids. Same goes for the animals, they’re regular animals and should all be applicable to one another no matter the scale. Unless of course they’re superhuman like Hamster and Gretel or the Avengers (with their powers) in Mission Marvel. Milo Murphy’s Law (despite all its craziness) is a much more grounded show than its other two shows it’s related to, so Milo doesn’t really get the chance to do things like pilot ships around stars at light speeds or dodge objects that are powerful enough to shake the sun, so of course we wouldn’t get the chance to see Milo do any of these things. The closest we could get to either of those are various Octailians piloting ships to Octalia, which takes a fair bit of time, but we don’t really know where Octalia is so it’s harder to quantify for Milo and his friends. That alone, though, should show that Milo is absolutely capable of the things normal humans can do in his verse, and it’s silly to assume that he couldn’t. Sure, he’s a regular kid, but people younger than him have shown to be able to do above average human level things (including Milo too, just to a lesser scale usually) and Milo would have no reason not to scale to it, or even above it. However there is another outlier for the Phineas and Ferb universe that’s worth explaining, too.


This fucking tree


A high-speed feat for Candance involves her running so fast with the lightspeed shoes, and crashing into a tree. As Phineas shows, they run so fast to almost outrun the speed light can travel, and when Candace runs into a tree, she stops completely in her tracks without the tree being harmed. An argument for this feat is the number being so high despite a regular tree being able to stop her, but it can be explained why this is.


This is the “this fucking guy” of this verse. An outlier that really has no reason to be this strong, but there’s a couple reasons to explain the way this tree is so durable and further address these overall “outlier” arguments we have with the Phineas and Ferb verse. In general, the tree is this powerful because trees in the P&F world have shown to consistently be this durable before. In the very first episode, we see Phineas, Ferb, and their friends in a roller coaster get slingshot by a tree all the way to Paris. In a few seconds, no less. Given the fact that the tree didn’t break and instead was very bent, Candace crashing into the tree without it budging is perfectly reasonable, and this truly just is the way trees are in this world. So, while it sounds crazy, yes. Large Mountain Level tree.


Can Murphy’s Law affect a planet?


This point is in relation to Orgaluth’s Law. In the finale for Milo Murphy’s Law, we learn why Milo keeps getting abducted, and it’s to help their planet from the brink of calamity from a sphere literally called the “Sphere of Camity.” The origin of this sphere was from Orgaluth, an Octalian’s daughter, who emanates negative probability ions just like Milo does. Due to the fact that they have the same probability ions, does that mean Murphy’s Law is comparable?


Well there are a few key differences between Murphy’s Law and Orgaluth’s Law. Murphy’s Law is, as we’ve described before, a distinct law like gravity that affects the male members of the Murphy name. Orgaluth’s Law is specifically attracted to Orgaluth’s molecular structure. Why is this? We don’t exactly know. The exact origins of both Orgaluth’s and Murphy’s Law are sort of shrouded in mystery as to why they’re attracted to the people they’re attracted to. It can be assumed that negative probability ions, and by extension even positive probability ions, are just attracted more to  individuals that carry a specific molecular pattern. For some reason the first Murphy got Murphy’s Law and it was passed down but only to male members, and Orgaluth’s Law is only beginning to happen. As for comparability though, Murphy’s Law has never shown the scale of destruction that Orgaluth’s Law has shown, which makes sense due to the fact that the Murphys and Orgaluth are two completely different species, and therefore have different molecular structures for negative probability attraction.


Overall, Murphy’s Law and Orgaluth’s Law aren’t really comparable because of the different circumstances they came about, and are completely different when sizing up the people that each law is attracted to. No planet level Murphy’s Law.


Star Level Milo? & other cosmic P&F stuff


Game Night


While Milo and friends are playing a board game, it occurs to them that Milo has never completed a board game before due to Murphy’s Law. So a “black hole” is opened in the sky and all the people playing the board game actually manage to survive, surprisingly.


While many throughout the episode mistake the vortex as a black hole, it’s actually really not. Like, at all. It’s more akin to a deadly vortex, but apparently in Milo’s universe a deadly vortex and a black hole look a lot alike. Black holes are slightly similar in appearance to this vortex, as it’s rapidly spinning, and emits a vortexual structure like a black hole would. But, again, it’s very clearly stated to NOT be a black hole, and just look like one. So, even if a deadly vortex looks a lot like a black hole wouldn’t that mean its output could be comparable? Well, not even that. At the end of the episode where Milo and his friends get sucked up, Cavendish says that it’s not as deadly as he thought. This would make the entire vortex more trans-dimensional, and really just sucks things in to transport them from one location to another. So, no star level Milo.


This Is Your Backstory


In the end credits scene, Phineas and Ferb hit a ping pong ball so much that it (according to Phineas) stored up enough kinetic energy to create a quantum vortex, and while Phineas and Ferb and the rest of existence all get sucked in, Candace is completely unharmed from it all.


The only way that Milo could scale to this feat is to say that Candace potentially downscales from the vortex, and Phineas and Ferb directly caused it meaning they were sucked in via close proximity. We can’t assume that everyone else besides Candace was sucked in too, but it feels a little obvious. Literally the entire screen becomes white, and it sucks in everything around it, like a black hole would. Phineas and Ferb are both very smart boys capable of a lot of things, so I don’t deny that it’s an actual quantum vortex, but regardless this is just such a one-time feat that is never elaborated on at all. And I really wouldn’t expect it to be, either, as it was just an after-credits gag. At least with Milo’s vortex we got an entire episode and we also got to see what happened when they went into the vortex, having heavy context. With this there’s so little to go off of we can’t count it and continue to be consistent.


Lost in Danville


Two old fellas named Bernie and Denise make a black hole and have to contain it, and their pet hamster powers the thing that’s containing the black hole. Off tops it seems pretty valid on the surface, but looking into it is pretty tricky. For one, Bernie and Denise are pretty weird people, no one really believes anything they’re saying. They’re two crazy geezers that could be making anything up on the spot. While Phineas does end up referring to it as a black hole in the end, he only does that when it starts sucking him in, hardly meaning he knows anything about this “black hole.” We do see it having at least some destructive capability, but Bernie and Denise are totally fine later on. This means that the “black hole” can’t kill others, just transport them elsewhere, like a trans-dimensional vortex. Another trans-dimensional vortex, huh?


Milo scaling to the hamster itself could hold some weight though… but only at first. Again, there’s such a lack of context here with the hamster in specific. How is the hamster powering this thing? Is it running so fast to keep the black hole contained? I think that’s pretty unlikely, and the hamster is likely just powering the machine that’s holding back the black hole. The hamster can’t be seen as the power source and more so just what’s powering the power source holding the thing. So, overall, this isn’t a black hole and nobody scales to the speed or power of it.


Gundham would be proud though lmao.


Immeasurable Milo???


Yes I’m serious. There’s a genuine argument for this. Normal people in Milo’s verse have been shown to dodge radio waves from certain characters, and due to the fact that other normal human characters have dodged lasers it’s not that far fetched. So, where does this immeasurable part come in? Well, Cavendish and Dakota communicate to the future with regular phones, but each time traveler has an inter-temporal communicator that allows them to do this. Given that it’s a normal phone and the normal radio waves would only need movement to go back in time, and people have dodged regular radio waves before, wouldn’t that make the waves immeasurably fast on their own?


As stupid as this argument is, it’s really easy to deconstruct. For one, we don’t know how these inter-temporal communicators even work, or if they even use radio waves. And given the fact that Dakota and Cavendish need a separate add-on to a normal device to do this, it probably doesn’t even use radio waves. Also, there isn’t even a feat of someone dodging an inter-temporal wave at all, and all of this is mostly just hypothetical. In conclusion, no immeasurable Milo. But that would be really funny.


Tributes


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Verdicts


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Hoo boy… let’s just say that when Dash was planning to make this the next time after Piranha Plant Vs Chomper, I was very excited! I never thought I could get into Danganronpa, but after well, what else, getting into it a couple months ago, though I do hold some regrets… and after I got more into Danganronpa after the 2013 Animation getting into the other games Nagito after a bit of worming became my favourite character not too long after that, (also if anyone’s wondering I’m the one who wrote that whole long as hell background for Nagito so thank me when I’m done lol) and always having a positive impression on Dan Povenmire’s work, having to work twice the amount of work I was planned to before so yeah. Enough yapping though we’re actually here to decide who wins not how great these two are lol.


Stats


Strength and Durability


Nagito himself doesn’t really perform much feats on a physical level, though we know that even regularly humans in the world of Danganronpa are pretty strong themselves so we’ll have to rely on scaling him to some of the strongest humans even if he’s not as strong he should downscale, depending on the type of person, like Teruteru surviving a massive mission explosion inspite of his smaller size compared to most other this feat can get around the Small Building level range, roughly 0.08 Tons of TNT. And being in the same class as him and needing him in order to rangle and tie up Nagito, he should at least downscale from Nekomaru Nidai, who as we all know by know, took a dump so hard it leveled a large portion of a forest, getting decently high into Town Level around 70 Kilotons.


But there are much higher bars we can cross like how certain characters in Danganronpa can do things like slicing buildings in half reaching almost a Kiloton of TNT, or how several seemingly normal students were implied to survive an explosive Nagito planted that gets over 400 Kilotons of TNT. 


Though of course some of the best scaling he gets comes from scaling him to the half white, half black bear we all love and hate, Monokuma, as who is been shown being superior to most if not all the main students in Danganronpa physically he also performs some of the best feats, though conveniently only when he’s very big, a building sized Monokuma Unit could punch a building hard enough to where a large explosion happens, but the more impressive one the Big Bang Monokuma could launch its head into the sky with so much force it splits the clouds, creating an impact of at least 2.3 Megatons of TNT.


Now… I say at least because there is a higher end to the defeat itself that gets to nearly 300 Megatons, however… I myself am not exactly too fond of this high end for the series, mainly because it really comes down to subjective opinions on how big you think Big Bang Monokuma is, as I’m gonna attempt to dissect the high end calc seemingly being compared with the lower end feat, the justification for making the size of the head bigger than the lower end feat does is by measuring the size of the crown seemingly compared to small square based pieces in that image? That in itself is hard to compare the exact size of the crown on Big Bang Monokuma to something at a different angle and distance like that, which admittedly you can probably make that argument for the low end calc as well though that one can make sense in the form of its head in that image is basically a perfect sphere so comparing its head in that zoom out shot does make a little more sense, though this may just be my opinion.

Now there is something else to bring up that can get to around this level, that Being Komaru being able to tank Missile’s moving at Relativistic speed which can get to just over 100 Megatons, now I don’t have too much knowledge on this feat specifically so I can’t really disagree with it, but I don’t think that on its own is enough for me to necessarily buy Mountain Level Danganronpa, as funny as that can be depending on takes.


As for Milo, at a low end there’s a good enough amount of feats performed by Milo himself along with Mellisa and Zack that can get to around the Building to Small Town Level range like being in the epicenter of a large egg explosion at roughly half a Ton of TNT, to restraining an alien device that was traversing through space which has a Kinetic Energy of roughly 1 Kiloton of TNT, or being dragged by a bunch of woodpeckers from Danville, to New York, and then back to Danville in very short timeframe, clocking at almost 4 Kilotons. The best standalone feat for Milo though is when him and Melissa survived the impact of Lardy Boy’s head being hit into space, as weird as these feats are, that in particular gets to around 6.2 Megatons of TNT, perhaps backed up by how it was stated that one Postachion could level a whole city in infant stage and Milo has been able to damage those before.


Comparing these two ends assuming we go with the low end for the Big Bang Monokuma feat Milo would only be 2.69 times stronger. nice


Though if you wanted to go the super generous route by saying that a Danganronpa can get to Mountain Level via the high end of the Big Bang Monokuma feat which requires specifics and subjectivity and the Relativistic missile feat which without a stable enough source to back it up, then yes Nagito could potentially be a lot stronger…

Until we say the magic words, say it with me now, Phineas and Ferb Scaling.

We’ve already discussed this in the scaling section, but it should relatively fair game to scale Milo Murphy to the Phineas and Ferb cast given, that’s it pretty well established they exist within the same universe in the same town and Milo shown instances of keeping up with then so we can scale him to them relatively accurately, now even though we’re not including any of the weird star/black level stuff in P&F, even taking the low end of Phineas and Ferb scaling into account you’d have stuff like Ferb shaking Mt. Rushmore, which at best gets around 17 Gigatons of TNT, backed up by Candace surviving running into a tree with the Super Speed Shoes, which gets around 1.68 Gigatons, and then to expand on all of this you can even bring up stuff like Candace withstanding the entire earth expanding beneath her which got around 4 Petatons or Continent Level, and oh yes! Phineas and Ferb raised a god damn flag pole on mars that is pretty much the size of Mars in a short amount of time and it gets to around 18 Yottatons or Large Planet Level, which is all around a good high end feat. And Milo should scale to pretty much all of this for the reasons I have explained above.


So all around realistically no matter what ends up reasonably use Milo is pretty confidently stronger, to the point of basically AP Stomping even if you go with the highest levels of Attack Potency within Danganronpa.


Speed


Speed is a very similar story which you’ll see in a minute. Nagito again doesn’t really contribute anything to the speed category unless you wanna say him manipulating the Hacking Gun as attack speed but that just gets kinda confusing, so again we have to go to scaling there’s are feats here and there that get to the Supersonic, Hypersonic or vaguely higher levels of speed, but the main feats to look at are the Relativistic to Faster Than Light range, like Mukuro moving so fast that bullets appear to be frozen which is around 3.7% The Speed of Light.

But the main source of course comes from feats involving the Hacking Gun, several Monokuma Units move in tandem with shots getting various degrees of Relativistic speed, Komaru dodging a point blank shot while wielded by Byakuya which gets just over the Speed of Light, but the best instance of this comes from the fight with Nagisa’s mech, getting to a max speed of 4.4 Times the Speed of Light, very good overall.


Milo on the other hand on his own has outran a lot of animals. Capybaras, wolves, and even those woodpeckers mentioned earlier, which if we take that Danville to New York trip into a speed would get over Mach 2000.


But when getting into scaling. Things get much more varied, specifically the time travelling duo of Cavendish and Dakota having at least two separate instances of dodging lasers form weapons, the best example of these involving the Age Regressor ray which given how far Cavendish moved his head in comparison to the laser firing at him would equal speeds of roughly 45% the Speed of Light or Relativistic speeds.


Now if we’re just comparing these two from these ends, I can concede in saying that at their best Nagito is a good bit faster, around 16 times faster to be exact, though funny thing here you know there’s the this neat Milo has, drumroll please, fucking Phineas and fucking Ferb fucking scaling. I apologise for my profanity lol.

Yeah you get the picture, while there are also several feats in the show that get to FTL ranges there are also a surprising amount of Massively Faster than Light feats, the biggest one being when Ferb was capable of reacting to objects while on a surfboard that was moving fast enough to escape a black hole a feat getting up to 150 Trillion Times the Speed of Light, and there’s enough MFTL+ Feats to back this up.


So all around with this is mind Milo pretty much blitzes to an absurd degree.


Overall this is mainly part of the reason why I felt like sticking to just MML scaling would be a better move because with P&F Scaling in mind Milo pretty much stomps Nagito in stats though if that weren’t the case Milo would likely be slightly stronger but Nagito would still be much faster.

Either way doesn’t really matter, Milo takes Stats.


Arsenal and Equipment


This categories a no brainer, while Nagito might be a bit dangerous with what he can hold onto him like a knife, a gun, bombs, poison etc, Milo’s backpack is essentially just a near limitless storage he can pull just about any useful item for him to use at any times, ones that can specifically counter some of Nagito’s best gear for this fight, like a dust filtering mask to resist the scent of the poison Nagito used to incapacitate or kill himself, several methods of shutting down Technology like Nagito’s robotic arm and even his gun with his cattle prod or even just disarming Nagito of any metallic themed weapon like his electromagnet, having much better advantages at range with stuff like his grappling hook and multiple handheld launchers, can summon a flock of woodpeckers to harass Nagito and also just having an equivalency to Nagito own equipment, like Knockout gas, Milo overall just has much more versatility with what he can pull out of his backpack, several of which can counter pretty much anything Nagito has, and while Nagito does have some defenses against Milo’s more haxier items like a gas mask to filter out the knockout gas, and maybe even his student handbook to block some of Milo’s projectiles, but ultimately he doesn’t have that much beyond that, Nagito might have the better offensive arsenal given how strong his bombs are, and also possessing poison, which depending on its use and if you say the dust filtering mask wouldn’t block it out would be a wincing, but other then that,

Milo has a more expansive arsenal.


Fortune Vs Misfortune


For this category we really only need to discuss two things, Nagito’s Ultimate Luck, and Murphy’s Law, Hope Vs Despair if you will!... We already went over how they would interact, but the main question here is which ability is more potent? 

All around I’d say Murphy’s Law is much more destructively potent on its own, although Nagito’s Luck, while not as powerful in my personal opinion, does a good job mitigating it, however… there’s still the unfortunate hustle that Nagito’s Luck is virtually never consistent, well I should say that, it’s consistent for it to be good and bad at any corner he’s in, which means his luck likely wouldn’t be able to protect him from the sheer negative probably Murphy’s Law can inflict on someone all the time.

So because of that I give Milo this advantage though Nagito’s luck does a good job at cancelling Murphy’s Law out overall, though it’s kinda weird.


Experience and Skill


Now this is kind of an interesting category to go over in some ways, while both of them are incredibly skilled when it comes to planning, the difference between both of them is that Milo often always comes up with plans on the fly, meanwhile the vast majority of Nagito’s completely insane plans require days of preparation on someone or something, so while I think it might be fair to say Nagito is smarter overall especially since Milo can be quite naive at times, Milo’s intelligence is definitely more suited for a fight like this.


In terms of Experience, Nagito is obviously older, however when it comes to more practical experience in scenarios like these, Nagito stopped one world wide apocalypse with loads of help by his side right after he’d woken up from basically a comatose state, Milo has stopped an invasion across time and two whole apocalypses because of Murphy’s Law. Despite that I’d definitely be willing to say that one of Nagito’s biggest advantages in this fight is that he is definitely more willing to kill somebody if something doesn’t go his way, as oppose to Milo who is generally more passive despite rare instances of lashing out at other people even of the supernatural variety.


It’s honestly kind of a difficult category but just because Milo has had to deal with Murphy’s Law for his entire life not to mention all the adventures he’s gone on I think he should take this Experience and Skill but we can give Nagito Intelligence as well.


Overall


Honestly the only things that’s keeping me from calling this matchup a stomp is that Komaeda does have some advantages and potentially has ways to win outright regardless of the Strength advantage, but even without taking the massive speed gap between them into account, Milo’s backpack can give him a counter to nearly everything Nagito could pull out, and even if he didn’t have much of anything on him it’s very likely Murphy’s Law would trigger some kind of event to happen that’d stop Whatever Nagito tried to throw at Milo. While Nagito’s fascinating luck, cunning attitude and tunnel vision on those threatening to hope on a first glance would prove a harder then normal adversary for our main Murphy here, Milo’s vastly superior stats, crafty resourcefulness, and skills with Negative Probability means he’d be able to end the fight even with the burden of bad luck.


At the end of the day I guess you can say Nagito seems to see himself as a mere nobody, because this is Milo’s world, and he’s just living in it. 


Nagito ultimately had high hopes for a jackpot, but ended up getting despair of fines for trying to break Murphy's Law.


The Winner is Milo Murphy.


Mediocre Productions

Heyo! I’m a turtle! I joined this blog as an excuse to rewatch a lot of Milo Murphy’s Law, a really fun series! Not a huge fan of Dangitgrandpa (that’s what it’s called right?), but the mu seems really cool. I’m not sure what else to say so let’s get right into it!



Stats


Let’s keep this one simple because it really is. In terms of raw stats, this was not close.

While Nagito doesn’t have many direct strength feats, he can be compared to other Hope’s Peak students. For example, Mukuro Ikusaba rammed through several Monokuma units and destroyed a reinforced Monokuma camera. Calculations place around 63.6 kilotons of TNT, over four times the yield of the bomb that destroyed Hiroshima. There’s also the infamous “Nekomaru toilet blast” which leveled a forest and yielded 78.04 kilotons, or the time a group survived a 413.4 kiloton explosion. These are impressive feats for the Danganronpa universe, but Milo could more than keep up.

Even on his own, Milo has restrained an alien spaceship clocking in at 1.12 kilotons. But more importantly he and his friends survived an impact that sent a massive mascot head being launched into space. That feat alone yields 6.2 megatons of TNT, or city-level durability. And this is consistent, as Milo could defeat Pistachions, and just one Pistachion was capable of leveling a city before they could walk. 

Now, if we’re extremely generous to Nagito, we could attempt to scale him to Big Bang Monokuma’s high-end cloud dispersal feat of 298.5 megatons. But again, that’s a stretch for Nagito and we don’t need to stretch for Milo.

Why? Phineas and Ferb scaling.

Milo’s series shares a canon universe with Phineas and Ferb, and the Pistachions, Milo’s villains, successfully invaded Danville and overwhelmed most of the Phineas and Ferb cast. Doofenshmirtz became a side character. And Doof is consistently portrayed as weaker than Milo. 

That means Milo reasonably scales to feats like:

  • Candace crashing into a tree at Relativistic speeds: 1.68 gigatons

  • Ferb shattering a section of Mt. Rushmore: 17.4 gigatons

  • Candace tanking the Earth’s rapid growth: 4.02 petatons

  • Phineas and Ferb planting a flag on Mars that was visible from Earth: 18.24 yottatons 

Even conservatively, Milo scales to characters who are operating on island and continent levels of power, and gets to large planetary levels of power at a high end.

And speed was even more lopsided! 

Nagito, at best, could scale to Nagisa’s robot dodging electromagnetic waves: 4.4x the speed of light. A solid FTL feat but again, the cast of Phineas and Ferb casually dismantle that scale. Such as Ferb who could pilot rockets at 1.5 trillion times the speed of light, and could escape a black hole with a cosmic surfboard which gets to 152.79 trillion times the speed of light.

So while you probably would have guessed the scrawny, pale Nagito wasn’t about to out-punch the more clear athletic Milo, these numbers make it comically one-sided. Milo isn’t just more physically capable, he's operating on an entirely different level of power and speed.

Milo Murphy absolutely dominates in stats.


 

Equipment


At first glance, this category seems like a guaranteed win for Nagito. After all, he carries an overtly lethal arsenal: guns, knives, bombs, and even canisters of poisonous gas. His weaponry is designed for destruction and chaos, and his willingness to use them gives him a menacing edge. Compared to that, Milo Murphy’s gear might seem underwhelming, just a cluttered backpack full of random odds and ends. But that initial impression couldn’t be more misleading. Milo’s arsenal, due to his pacifistic nature is far less combat oriented, but that’s because it is uniquely tailored to a different kind of battlefield. As someone who lives under the constant pressure of Murphy’s Law where anything that can go wrong will go wrong Milo doesn’t prepare for combat in the traditional sense. He prepares for unpredictability. His backpack is filled not with weapons of war, but with tools designed to counter disasters and neutralize threats, often in the most creative and unconventional ways imaginable. And when you put that up against Nagito’s predictable (if deadly) lineup of weapons, Milo’s counter-based loadout becomes his greatest advantage. Take, for example, Nagito’s use of poison gas. Milo just so happens to carry a high-grade gas mask, capable of filtering out even the most toxic substances. Nagito’s knife? Milo might deflect it or disable him entirely with a well-timed strike from his cattle prod which created an electric shock powerful enough to power an advanced time machine from the future. And then there’s the matter of Nagito’s metallic equipment, including potentially his prosthetic arm. Milo has pulled out a heavy-duty magnet before more than strong enough to disarm someone relying on metal-based tools. And that’s only scratching the surface. Milo’s backpack has some more stuff out there like a radioactive watermelon. Milo Murphy has the better arsenal. 

Skill and Experience

When it comes to intelligence, the competition becomes less straightforward but ultimately, Nagito edges out with a surprising and decisive advantage. While Milo is far from unintelligent, Nagito’s intellect is on a different level entirely, blending deductive brilliance with masterful manipulation and an almost supernatural sense of planning. Take, for instance, the events of Danganronpa 2, where Nagito not only uncovers the identity of the traitor among the group in Chapter 5 but executes an elaborate murder-suicide plan that hinges entirely on his unpredictable luck—and succeeds. His scheme was so meticulously designed and bold that it forced the entire cast into a moral and psychological corner, showing just how far ahead he was thinking. Equally impressive is how he deduced that the school setting was actually a virtual reality, an existential twist that most others never even considered. And that’s not all. In the Despair Arc of the anime, Nagito again demonstrates incredible foresight and cunning. Upon learning of Junko Enoshima’s intent to brainwash the Remnants of Despair, he sets his own plan in motion without backup or guidance. He manages to locate and destroy the Despair Videos before Junko can fully implement her brainwashing, comes dangerously close to assassinating her, and nearly dismantles her grand plan single handedly. His ability to act strategically, exploit circumstances, and strike at the heart of the threat is nothing short of genius. Nagito Komaeda takes intelligence.

However, when it comes to adaptability and raw skill, Milo Murphy holds a clear and commanding advantage. Milo lives under the constant unrelenting pressure of Murphy’s Law where anything that can go wrong will go wrong, often in the most catastrophic and absurd ways imaginable. Yet, despite this near-constant barrage of misfortune, Milo doesn’t just scrape by, he thrives. Every day of Milo’s life is a gauntlet of chaos. Collapsing buildings, runaway vehicles, freak accidents, malfunctioning technology you name it, it’s happened to him. But through a combination of quick reflexes, razor-sharp improvisation, and an uncanny ability to stay calm under pressure, Milo manages to navigate disaster after disaster with grace and precision. While others would freeze, panic, or be overwhelmed, Milo’s brain kicks into overdrive, turning potential catastrophes into mere inconveniences. His skillset is rooted in real-time problem-solving, reacting fluidly to an environment that’s constantly trying to kill him. By contrast, while Nagito is undoubtedly more intelligent and cunning, his plans often rely on long-term strategy, manipulation, and calculated gambits. He thrives when he has time to think, plan, and exploit circumstances. But throw him into a spontaneous, ever-changing situation with no clear pattern or logic exactly the kind of scenario Milo deals with daily and he’d likely struggle to adapt at the same level. In terms of raw skill, reflexes, and the ability to survive and succeed in the face of pure chaos, Milo outclasses Nagito by a wide margin. His entire life is a masterclass in adaptability. So while Nagito may be the better tactician, Milo is the superior improviser, the kind of person who can walk through a disaster zone and come out smiling. In the realm of skill and reactive adaptability, Milo Murphy takes skill.

Powers and abilities


Last but far from least, we arrive at what’s arguably the most interesting and contentious category in this debate: abilities, particularly when it comes to supernatural luck.

At a glance, Milo easily takes the edge in general abilities. He casually showcases powers such as hammerspace/spatial manipulation, fourth wall awareness, etc, while Nagito, despite all his cunning, lacks any concrete superhuman abilities outside of his luck. But when we isolate the core of this debate their respective luck-based phenomena—that’s where things get fascinating.

On the surface, Nagito’s Ultimate Lucky Student title might seem like the winning ticket. His luck manifests as a cycle: extreme good fortune followed by equally extreme misfortune, and vice versa. It’s unpredictable but undeniably supernatural, allowing him to survive otherwise fatal scenarios and engineer absurdly unlikely outcomes often to devastating effect. That seems like a trump card... until you consider what Milo’s luck actually is.

Murphy’s Law isn’t just bad luck, it's a fundamental force of the universe, stated to be as immutable and ever-present as gravity itself. It doesn't just affect Milo directly it warps reality around him, passively and constantly. Anything that can go wrong will go wrong, and not just for him, but for those near him as well including his enemies. We've seen this clearly with foes like the Pistachions and the Cyborg Bear, who were undone not by Milo’s attacks, but by sheer environmental collapse caused by Murphy’s Law reacting to their pursuit of him.

This is where things get even more damning for Nagito. In Milo Murphy’s Law's crossover with Phineas and Ferb, it's shown that Phineas and Ferb possess a reality-warping effect of their own often dubbed the "Phineas and Ferb Effect" where everything goes right for them, akin to a form of meta-good-luck. Their force of good luck is potent (watch any episode of Phineas and Ferb lol), even to the point where a bad luck charm did not affect them (Phineas and Ferb Hawaiian Vacation part 2). And yet, even their reality-bending positivity was overridden the moment Milo entered the scene. Their technology short-circuited, accidents ensued, and chaos resumed. It took extreme precision of where the boys stood and a machine to redirect Murphy’s Law temporarily.

This alone suggests that Murphy’s Law overrides other probability-based abilities, including Ultimate Luck. While Nagito may experience miraculous success and survival, the scale, consistency, and passive nature of Murphy’s Law creates an environment where positive outcomes are actively denied. At best, Nagito’s Ultimate Luck would be rendered neutral, its positive effects canceled out. At worst, it could trigger his own downfall, as Murphy’s Law has a habit of causing deadly mishaps specifically to those who threaten Milo even if Milo never lifts a finger. Random objects and buildings have just blown and crumbled near Milo, as well as hordes of animals, calamitous objects just randomly hurting people around Milo, and again people directly pursuing Milo with negative attempts were just taken out by the random calamitous events around the Murphy boy. It’s entirely possible Nagito could get hit by a random stampede of llamas, spontaneously combust into nothingness, or any number of horrible things. 

And unlike Nagito, who uses his luck for long-term schemes and carefully-placed risks, Milo has trained his entire life to operate within chaos. He doesn’t just endure random catastrophe he navigates it, improvises within it, and uses it to his advantage. He is uniquely adapted to survive the exact kind of world Murphy’s Law creates.

Even in terms of scope, Murphy’s Law dominates. While Nagito’s Ultimate Luck affects local events and scenarios, Murphy’s Law has been shown to affect entire towns, chain reactions extending across massive distances, and could even affect things moving through the time stream.

In the end, Murphy’s Law is simply stronger, broader, and more oppressive than Ultimate Luck. And since Milo is the only one accustomed to functioning in that kind of reality-bending entropy, Milo walks away with the clear edge in abilities.


Overall

While Nagito was by no means weak or lacking far from it. His intelligence, manipulative prowess, and twisted brilliance made him a formidable opponent. But in the end, it just wasn’t enough. Despite being the smarter combatant on paper, Milo’s overwhelming edge in raw stats, versatile arsenal, adaptable skills, lifetime of experience, and most crucially, his fundamental dominion over probability itself, tilt the scales decisively in his favor. In this ironic clash of fortune and misfortune, the winner of this so-called luck of the draw wasn’t the one blessed by fortune. It was the bad luck that prevailed. 

The winner is Milo Murphy.


AdamTheMango

(On the Nintendo DS)


So, this is my first time writing a solo verdict. Go me amirite? Danganronpa is one of my favourites series of all time and I have seen Milo’s Murphy’s Law and love Phineas and Ferb. So naturally, I thought it would be natural to try and hop on this blog.


Stats


Stats really aren’t too hard to break down. I’m gonna skip over direct feats because Nagito’s feats pale in comparison to Milo’s. So let’s just get to that juicy scaling!


Starting with Sans’ boyfriend. There’s a multitude of Kiloton feats within Danganronpa, from Mukuro ramming into Monokumas to Nekomaru’s… Taco Bell experience. However, the highest feats come from good ol’ mid Ultra Despair Girls. Where Big Bang Monokuma’s head is able to split clouds, getting a yield from anywhere between 2.3 - 298.5 Megatons of TNT. The lower end is more believable as the higher end has some pretty weird pixel scaling that doesn’t line up too well when you put Komaru & Toko next to BBM. Staying on the topic of Ultra Despair Girls, many of the EM dodging feats are Nagito’s best source of speed, with multiple of the Monokuma units EM feats getting into the relativistic range, with the best one being Nagisa’s robot dodging one, getting to 4.4c. It’s also important to note that Nagito is absolutely not scaling 1 to 1 with any of this. He’s an ill, dying man, so if you even believe he scales in the first place, keep in mind that it’s notable downscaling. 


Onwards to Milo, when looking at strictly Milo Murphy’s Law. It has its own fair amount of Kiloton feats, whether it be restraining an alien device or the Woodpeckers. With the best feat (Not including the cosmic Milo arguments, they’ve already been addressed) being Lardy Boy’s head being kicked into space, which is equivalent to a yield worth 6.2 Megatons of TNT! Not bad for a regular kid! Speed is also easy to break down, Milo has his own feat getting well over Mach 2000, but scaling Cavendish dodging the Age Regressor ray gets to 0.45c. So while Milo might have a slight strength advantage at low ends. Nagito would be faster. Pretty even right?


Yeah ok, you knew this was coming.


I ain’t gonna sugarcoat it

Phineas & Ferb scaling.


Yeeeeeeah, scaling to P&F turns what would be otherwise a fairly even stat clash into a complete slaughter. Even ignoring the 18 fucking Yottaton flag pull on the account of it being just potential outlier. The lower ends aren’t much better. With Candace surviving the Earth’s expansion getting 4 Petatons of TNT and ANOTHER feat of Candace crashing into a tree with super speed shoes getting 1.68 Gigatons of TNT. Milo is solidly taking strength, but could Nagito still keep up in speed- No.


Speed is even worse for Nagito. There is a crazy amount of MFTL+ feats in that show. Perry’s feat of reacting to asteroids while literally on a spaceship getting 1.71 Million c alone is enough to blitz Nagito, yet alone Ferb’s multitude of speed feats. One of which being worth a bare minimum of 10 Trillion c!


If it wasn’t clear, Milo takes stats. Being likely Millions of time stronger at bare minimum and potentially TRILLIONS of times faster than our favourite Hope boi. (Sorry Makoto)


Equipment 


This one should probably be pretty clear cut by just looking at the length of their respective equipment sections. Milo with his backpack is carrying WAY more to the battle than Nagito. That’s not to say Nagito has nothing to offer. He could potentially poison Milo, Milo lacks any innate resistance to poison, but the dust filtering mask would likely shut that down, along with Nagito’s pepper. But likewise, Nagito could also resist Milo’s knockout gas with his own gas mask. So it isn’t all bad for Nagito!


That’s about where the positive ends for Nagito. The gun gives him range, sure and is probably a more effective weapon than Milo’s t-shirt launcher. But Milo’s electromagnet in particular could just… Steal Nagito’s gun. Not to mention items like Milo’s grappling hook would help him to keep a distance from Nagito, and combined with Milo’s massive stat advantage, the amount of things Milo could simply pull out of his backpack would be overwhelming.


Milo holds a very clear advantage in terms of equipment.


Ultimate Luck vs Murphy’s Law


The real meat and bones of this debate. To kick things off, yes, both could theoretically lose by just… Dying to their own or the other’s luck. But who’s luck would be more detrimental? Let’s find out.


To start, it’s pretty clear that Murphy’s Law is a lot more fundamental in it’s concept compared to Ultimate Luck, it’s akin to gravity. Anything that can go wrong, will go wrong. Would this include the good luck of Nagito? Maybe? Murphy’s Law can affect the naturally lucky Phineas & Ferb (although it’s worth nothing their good luck isn’t inherently cancelled out, and it was via their probability ions reacting with each other, something you could argue Nagito inherently lacks), but Nagito’s luck also saved his live when put against Izuru, someone who also has Ultimate Luck and to a blatantly higher degree than Nagito. Being perfect is literally Izuru’s whole thing, someone having the stronger luck isn’t inherently fatal for Nagito (although it would mitigate his luck a bit, Izuru’s luck was still able to jam Nagito’s gun).


So assuming Ultimate Luck doesn’t get nullified immediately. How will the 2 forces bounce off each other? I’d be willing to bet that Murphy’s Law is causing way more destruction than Ultimate Luck in this battle. Ultimate Luck can cause collateral damage like small landslides and collapsing buildings, but not nearly to the scale of Murphy’s Law. Which at least causes something to break at least 5 times every day, along with causing. In Nagito’s defence however. With Murphy’s Law overwhelmingly producing bad luck, Nagito’s good luck would be through the roof. Nagito’s good luck has shown to act defensively, so could it potentially defend Nagito from the many disasters from this fight, right? Kinda, for a time it could. But Murphy’s Law is operating on a level that provides the worst of the worst so constantly, that it could be overwhelming for someone that isn’t prepared for it like Nagito.


Overall, despite being potentially overwhelmed by Murphy’s Law, it seems like the defensive bonuses of Nagito’s luck would help him here, right?


Maybe, if it wasn’t for


Tertiary factors


Yeah, this is surprisingly important to this debate. As stated before, while Nagito’s luck could inherently defend him, we gotta consider how they both treat these kinds of situations.


Nagito, despite living with Ultimate Luck all his life. Never really tries to mitigate its potency, he simply lives with that, barely making it through every day while he avoids disasters by inches. He never tried to actively prevent or avoid his bad luck, his bad luck is the one avoiding him. Because his good luck protects him.


On the other hand, Milo prides himself on being prepared for anything, anything that he needs to survive is probably in that backpack of is. And that’s the key difference. Milo would actively be adapting to the calamities around them, doing whatever he can to avoid it. Nagito wouldn’t, and that might work for a while as his good luck protects him. Nagito is still way closer at more at risk of being hit by said disaster, compared to Milo who’s actively trying to not be in range of said disasters. This difference in mindset would potentially prove fatal for Nagito, as his opponent would put himself in a consistently safer position.


Buuuut, to be fair. Nagito is likely smarter. Milo isn’t dumb, but his resourcefulness moreso comes from the fact he’s physically prepared for everything after years of exposure to Murphy’s Law. Rather than cunning planning (he’s a pretty fast thinker though). And Milo is still pretty naive above all else.


Nagito is cunning, successfully concocting an accidental murder that looked like a suicide but also could resemble an actual murder that was covered up like an actual suicide. None of Danganronpa 2’s remaining cast could actually solve the case by normal means. Only figuring it out once the traitor, Chiaki came clean. Because she figured out that Nagoto used his luck to GET the traitor to accidentally kill him without knowing it (Welcome to Danganronpa). Not to mention, his modification of Komaru’s hacking gun is nothing to scoff at. That hacking gun was made by the Towa Group, who are considered to be the most technologically advanced group within Danganronpa! 


Granted, I don’t think intelligence will be a big factor, not only did Nagito need time to prepare for his intelligence feats. But this fight having so much random bullshit means that Milo’s resourcefulness ultimately matters more to this debate.


Overall


Bluntly, while we could talk about the admittedly unique debate between Murphy’s Law and Ultimate Luck all we want. The verdict is mainly decided by stats alone. Nagito physically can’t keep up with Milo to any degree.


Nagito’s luck would prove to be a tricky force, and his cunningness was extraordinary. But against Milo’s physicality, his endless supply of equipment and routinely resourcefulness. It’s Milo’s world and Nagito’s not gonna live in it. As Nagito couldn’t hope for even a draw against the Law. (hey that rhymed!)


The winner is Milo Murphy




1qwedt

Ello mates! I guess I’ll be giving my thoughts on this matchup’s debate. Since they would both probably just be avoiding horrible things happening to them so I’ll be judging the categories based on them.


For the Power categories, Milo should take it. 


Nagito’s scaling gets him stats in the Megaton range, but Milo’s stupid P&F scaling gets him in the Yottaton range. That puts him millions of times stronger and more durable than Nagito, causing him to survive more powerful disasters. 


Next is speed, which they need to outrun some obstacles including each other. While Nagito is slightly faster than light, Milo is way faster than light. Like millions of times faster than Nagito. Milo takes this too.


In terms of their equipment and hax, it’s clear that Nagtio loses. While he has better offensive equipment, Milo has the better equipment for the many situations they could get into. Dark place, Flashlight. Falling down, inflatable santa.  


For misc factors, Milo took it. While Nagito was much smarter about his luck, Milo was more adaptive about it.


So, yeah. It’s short but it works. In the stupid law of Milo, Nagito got arrested. The winner is Milo.


Dash Fish


Hey, it's me! The creator herself. Thanks for reading this far if you have! I wanted to do this matchup because I didn’t really see a clear consensus for it in the community, and also I just think luck is a really cool thing to analyze in a versus scenario. Anyways let’s get into my verdict!


Stats


First, strength. Without scaling and higher ends, Milo held back a high-speed alien device, coming out at small town level. Nagito doesn’t really have any direct strength feats but scaling him to Mukuro gets him to regular town level+. Pretty impressive on either front, with Nagito beating him here, but oh boy are we not done. We haven’t brought in the Milo scaling yet. Milo’s most consistent highest end is scaling to Ferb, who casually shook Mt. Rushmore, which comes out to city or even island levels of strength on the high end. This is supported by Milo’s scaling to the Pistachions, who could take down cities while they were young, his friends harm them pretty easily so this makes sense. Technically he could even get to planet level, but honestly that flag feat is fucking crazy and not even needed here. While Milo never throws any punches and likely wouldn’t try to engage in direct fisticuffs with Nagito, Milo is absolutely stronger. Even without scaling to other characters it’s not too far off here. Town Level+ VS City - Island Level. Milo takes strength.


Next let’s talk about durability. Nagito on his own has faced many projectiles in his day, and likely won’t be harmed by a lot, including a freaking car ramming him into a tree, but that calcs out to wall level, likely wall level+. Milo on the other hand has survived a rollercoaster sending Lardy Boy’s head into space. While Milo and Melissa probably wouldn’t scale to that entire hit, since the coaster was protecting them a bit, it still calculates out to city level, which beats Nagito. But bring on the scaling, Tony. Let’s just take them at their highest ends here, because why not. Nagito could likely endure hits from the Big Bang Monokuma, who could part clouds and be interpreted as mountain level. Again, a high end, but still fine to consider regardless. Milo’s highest scaling is with Candace, who was unshaken by the entire Earth expanding, coming out to continent level. So yeah, that beats Nagito pretty easily. But, I will admit, that feat is kind of dubious, as Candace seems unharmed by this and has been hurt by less. So let’s take a lower scale feat she was genuinely hurt by. Scaling Milo to Candace and a certain tree we discussed earlier, taking a hit with the super speed shoes on comes out to large mountain level. So yeah. Still enough to beat Nagito, even if we don’t have scaling for either Milo still is more durable. Mountain Level vs Large Mountain - Continent Level. Milo takes durability.


And finally, speed. Nagito… sadly has nothing. He’s not really known for his speed and more so for his stealth in terms of movement. So we kind of have to scale him for this category. He can be compared to Nagisa’s robot, who can dodge EM waves at 4.4 x the speed of light. Pretty decent for his reaction speeds. Milo, without scaling, would’ve had to react to being flown across the world during the woodpecker incident, which comes out to massively hypersonic reaction speeds. With scaling, though, well it’s kind of sad. Pick which MFTL+ Phineas and Ferb feat you like. Milo absolutely scales to all of it, and there’s enough other FTL feats to back it up, so yeah. At most though he scales to Ferb again (that fucking kid I swear) who can pilot his surfboard outside of a black hole, requiring speeds trillions of times faster than light, on the high end it’s 152 x the speed of light, on the low end it’s 10. But why do I even need to say the fucking low end it’s TRILLIONS of times faster. Like I said, it wouldn’t really matter. 4.4c VS 10 - 152 Trillion c. Milo takes speed.


Milo takes stats in each category.


Arsenal


Here’s another part of this matchup that’s fun! And absolutely less complicated I promise. Nagito has a much more limited arsenal, but some highlights are his various bombs, poison, knife, and of course: the gun. Milo notably has a cattle prod, an electromagnet, grappling hooks, sleeping gas, a catapult with bowling balls, and an ANCHOR. And given Milo has some pretty strong strength feats like I just wrote before, he could absolutely lift up that anchor and throw it at Nagito. Or maybe even load it in the catapult. But probably not. Anyways, defensively Milo has even more. For one, he always wears body armor which helps with vital organs not being broken, fire extinguishers, umbrellas, and inflatable air mattresses, which come in handy a lot more than I’d expect. For defense Nagito has… um… his student handbook? But to be honest the fact that it blocked a bullet was based on pure luck anyways. While Nagito clearly has much better of an arsenal suited for direct combat, Milo’s overwhelming versatility is enough for him here. For one, Milo’s body armor would block shots from Nagito’s gun, his electromagnet could just straight up steal it, and Murphy’s Law may even stop the gun from shooting in general. The cattle prod could short out Nagito’s robot arm, leaving him one limb short. Nagito’s pepper would be countered by the dust-filtering mask as well. The only things Milo couldn’t counter are the poison and the bombs, which require slight prep time to set up and use to their full potential in a fight scenario. Admittedly though, the poison would straight up kill Milo. The only overlapping thing for Nagito here is that his gas mask would likely protect against the knockout gas Milo carries. But that’s about it. Overall, Nagito has some great offensive options here, but they’re countered or negated by things in Milo’s backpack or require outside time to fully finish setting up.


Milo takes arsenal.


Intelligence / Skill


Here’s a fun category. Both of these kids are known for their wit and IQ, especially in dire scenarios. So, who’s shown greater feats of intelligence in their lifetime? Well. I’m not gonna sugarcoat it here, definitely Nagito. But there are some caveats, let me explain. Some of Nagito’s smartest and frankly most manipulative moments are crazy. For one, he exposed the traitor in Chapter 5 of the second game and did an insane muder-suicide plan involving his luck that completely worked. He also detected that the entire school was a virtual reality at the same time, which is insane in its own right. In the despair arc of the anime, Nagito finds out Junko plans to brainwash the Remnants of Despair, so he plans ahead. He finds the Despair Videos before the remnants are fully recovered, destroys them, comes really close to assassinating Junko, and nearly derails the entire Despair plot all by himself without any help. Milo has never shown intelligence as great and as manipulative as that. Ever. But here’s the thing with all of Nagito’s intelligence feats, they’re all done via planning. Don’t get it twisted, he’s an extremely cunning guy, but he works best once he’s analyzed a situation long enough to get a grasp on it. Nagito just wouldn’t get that time in a one-on-one fight, so it couldn’t really apply here. Milo, though, is a different story. The first time Pistachions take over the world and fight Milo’s friends, it hardly takes him any time to analyze what’s going on and figure out what to do. These are city-conquering Pistachions that outsmarted the human race multiple times over before, and Milo is so spontaneous in his thought process that he manages to outsmart every single one of them. Sure, he only managed to do it with his friends, but he was basically just telling them what to do the whole time. They were all taking orders from him, so that entire operation was basically just Milo and his brains. And when it’s a one-on-one fight, Milo would absolutely outsmart most people who try to combat him. So while Nagito is much smarter over time, Milo is much smarter without preparation.


Milo takes intelligence / skill. (At least in a fight.)


Luck vs. Law


This is a bit of a weird category. But basically what I’m asking here is: 

1. How would either deal with each other’s luck during the fight? 

And 2. Could either of them weaponize their luck to potentially harm the other?


I know, pretty specific, but I think it’s a thing worth talking about. For Nagito, he’d be experiencing twice as much bad luck as usual over one layer of good luck. Granted that he often waits for his bad luck to be over to capitalize on his good luck, he may have trouble discerning which bad luck is his and when it would be over. His good luck may stop Murphy’s Law from killing him outright, but we can’t count on it. Nagito’s bad luck has been shown to affect others occasionally, and in case Nagito wants to use his good luck to attack Milo, Milo would be working against three different forces back-to-back. So would Milo be able to handle all that? Well, honestly, yeah. We’ve seen him deal with some crazy stuff before and really, what’s two more layers of bad things that could potentially happen to him? He’s dealt with an entire planet-level calamity before. So Nagito might have trouble figuring out how Murphy’s Law even works, and he’d have some plights trying to keep track of what bad luck is his. Meanwhile Milo would just have extra trouble overall, but it’s nothing he can’t handle. He stays packed for every eventuality, after all.


As for my second question, seeing the calamity of both forms of their luck would be the best way to describe it. Nagito’s luck can summon asteroids, take down buildings, guide bullets into targets, and a lot more. Not like he has control over these things, but still. The most destructive we’ve seen Murphy’s Law is from Milo’s ancestors actually, who caused Mt. Vesuvius’s eruption and the sinking of ships like the Titanic. Canonically those are things that Murphy’s Law can do, but Milo never really finds a way to use Murphy’s Law against others. Except for during the Phineas and Ferb Effect where he literally has a mech to weaponize it, but that requires outside help to even work. Milo just sort of avoids it most of the time. So, Nagito’s more likely to actually utilize his form of chance in a battle more than Milo ever could.

Nagito’s luck gives him more of an edge in this fight than Milo, but Milo would deal with this against him a lot better than Nagito could.


Resiliency


Simply put, who handles their misfortune better? And in Nagito’s case, could he capitalize on his good luck well enough to win, despite the massive stat gaps? Really, it’s what this matchup boils down to and should really be a final deciding factor in my eyes. You could answer this question in a few different ways, since both of them have lived with their luck for their entire lives, and would be similar in experience in that sense. Nagito’s obviously a little bit older, so he might even take the experience part here, but there’s more to it than that. 


Nagito is deeply fatalistic, with an obsession that hope must be born from despair, viewing his luck as a double-edged cosmic force. Because of this he’s not really intimidated by threats of adversity or conflict, seeing them as boundless hope, or even welcoming their influence on occasion. He’s willing to sacrifice everything for his luck even if it means he’ll eventually die. Nagito’s resilience is extremely robust but destructive, persisting no matter what. His approach is borderline suicidal most of the time, and Milo is the exact opposite. He’s completely positive, hopeful, and upbeat, viewing Murphy’s Law as not a downside but just a part of who he is. He prepares constantly, and even works to protect others. He always adapts calmly, even when everything is going wrong. Milo’s resilience is purely constructive. He adapts, grows, and never becomes nihilistic. Both of them love the terrible aspects of their lives in completely different and idealistic ways, kind of fascinating when you think about it.


So, what can we take from all of this? Well, Nagito is willing to risk his life to win the fight, that much is obvious. Milo isn’t exactly the same way, since he never sees his life as being in danger. It just is the way it is. So could Nagito win with just his luck alone? Well… yes and no. That’s the thing. It’s luck, unpredictable, uncountable, unreliable. It’s completely possible that in some twisted way Nagito could pull off a win here, but he can never count on it to win. Nagito’s luck in a vacuum is weird like that. He sure is resilient, but he often just lets the bad things happen to him and doesn’t actively plan around them like Milo does. Nagito can theoretically win with just his luck, but that’s based on odds alone. When most other categories I’ve covered thus far in my verdict are an L for Nagito, the odds are just stacked up against him to lose. So while Nagito could win in some scenarios, given that’s just how his luck works, more often than not, he’s losing.


Milo takes resiliency.


Let’s lay down the law. While there’s nothing wrong with hoping, in this despair pair, Nagito thought he was clover, but was just Komae-dumb. My, that’s low of me. I don’t mean to jinx it, but the winner is Milo Murphy.


Conclusion


Nagito Komaeda

"After all the time we've spent together, I believe in you guys. And more than anything… I believe in my Ultimate Luck! So... it's definitely going to be all right..."

Advantages:

  • Generally more intelligent...

  • Better offensive options

  • Ultimate Luck makes him very hard to kill normally

  • Knows how to capitalize on his luck to his advantage

  • Could possibly win if he poisons Milo

  • More willing to resort to methods of murder in a situation like this

  • Gas mask would protect against knockout gas

  • Is in fact on Nintendo systems 

  • The stage play

Disadvantages:

  • …His greatest feats of intelligence happen over time

  • Much weaker and slower

  • Usually pretty irrational

  • Heavily relies on his luck in offensive scenarios

  • Might have trouble dealing with two layers of bad luck at a time

  • Would be affected by Murphy’s Law if he tried to sneak up on Milo

  • Is only catching hands from transplants with Junko’s corpse (George!)


Milo Murphy

“Sometimes things will go wrong, but don’t be afraid. You can face it together.”

Advantages:

  • Holds the stat trinity in spades

  • Murphy’s Law could ironically benefit him long term

  • Better defensive options

  • Bigger arsenal

  • A lot more mentally stable and level-headed

  • Better at thinking on the fly

  • Wouldn’t have much trouble defending against good luck

  • Has multiple methods of stopping Nagito’s gun

  • Cattle prod could short out Nagito’s robotic arm

  • Voiced by Weird Al

  • Would survive every Final Destination movie


Disadvantages:

  • A pacifist in most situations, putting him worse off in a fight

  • Some items don’t work in actual fights, or are useless in general

  • Would eventually run out of objects to use

  • Poison would incapacitate or kill him

  • Hard to counter Nagito’s good luck at a distance

  • The Llama Incident

  • MML’s cancellation :(

Final Tally


Nagito Komaeda (1) - Milo (He felt bad for him)

Milo Murphy (5) - AlfieMations, Mediocre Productions, AdamTheMango, 1qwedt, Dash Fish



The winner is Milo Murphy.



But I’m sure he and I would've made great friends!


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